feeling like just a tangle of mental diseases

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manuel_moe_g wrote: November 30th, 2021, 5:55 pm
my therapist wants me to think that i am courageous - for example, she sees the willingness to post here openly as very courageous

what do you guys think?
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An under appreciated comment, indeed.

There are lots of people, including many men our age, who actively choosing death, often terrible deaths, over doing exactly what you have done in this very thread, Manuel Moe.

They’d sooner die than share and be honest.

Example from my experience:

It was no fun walking into a 12 step meeting for the first time; in fact, it was humiliating!

Meanwhile, a friend from high school, who lived across the street from me a few years later, drank himself to death. It was a bad death, and sad for everyone.

I made it to the said meeting (they were lovely to me!), blundered through Debtors Anonymous, and happened to get sober two years later. At the time I was unemployable and a liar and lazy. But I lived and my friend died (and not because I was the better man).

I say all that to demonstrate that there are real consequences to keeping secrets. It kills people. It ruins relationships.

IME it is better to bumble and fumble through life, sharing our weaknesses, than to observe and experience the slow suicide of repression.
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oak wrote: December 1st, 2021, 6:50 am I made it to the said meeting (they were lovely to me!), blundered through Debtors Anonymous, and happened to get sober two years later. At the time I was unemployable and a liar and lazy. But I lived and my friend died (and not because I was the better man).
Thank heavens you lived, the world is a much better place with you in it, Oak!
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My being "just a tangle of mental diseases", as a theory, helps explain a lot of stuff

but it could be bad for my self-image and self-esteem
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It may give you cause to feel extremely vulnerable; which is something everyone struggles to tolerate, whether they have the explanation or not.

Watching yourself bumble through it - the awkward pain - and be okay, can be a massive boost to self esteem.
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was thinking about the mistakes i made during my life

had the shocking thought that there are terrible mistakes i made that i proceeded to forget, so i am unable to feel bad about them

surprised about how much it shocked me

obviously, i am thinking about my life's mistakes too much
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mistakes are necessary and good, compassion springs from them

we love to feel compassion for everyone who makes mistakes

mistakes are not about the core, mistakes come and go
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Re: feeling like just a tangle of mental diseases

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Yes, Manuel Moe, you have made mistakes. Some of them grave.

I fully, and without equivocation, acknowledge the truth of your statement: you feel a natural grief for your mistakes.

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Here is where I could cleverly try to turn this fact around, but I won’t.

While I by no means condemn you, far from it, I do fully recognize that you have made mistakes.

I see you and hear what you are saying.
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