Safety Thoughts

To start a discussion post as a new topic.
User avatar
snoringdog
Posts: 1550
Joined: April 23rd, 2019, 5:49 pm
Gender: male
Issues: anxiety, depression, automatic negative thoughts, intrusive thoughts, SAD.
preferred pronoun: "Good Boy!"
Location: USA

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by snoringdog »

Hello Beanie,

Not sure where to put this, but Rivergirl was just asking about museums reopening, and I just checked the Metropolitan Museum in NYC.

They're opened, and have a Japanese exhibit on display which is also available online.

https://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/l ... y-of-style

I love the screens and woodblock prints.

SD
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

Sounds great. Thank you :)

I recently finished memorizing the 46 hiragana (alphabet) characters and I’m onto the katakana ones now. I’m also currently learning about the significance of ‘wa’ as a sentence particle.
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

Safety thought:

“Toxic positivity”
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
rivergirl
Posts: 1270
Joined: March 3rd, 2013, 6:46 pm
Gender: Female
Issues: Depression, Anxiety

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by rivergirl »

Thank you for sharing, snoringdog. So much beauty. I particularly love this screen: Kōrin’s Irises at Yatsuhashi (Eight Bridges).

There's a kind of enforced positivity that I find to be exhausting and toxic. I'm not sure if that's anything like what you're thinking, Beany. Actually I'm exhausted just reading the word "positivity." :roll:
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

I heard it used on a podcast. It felt like a relief to hear it; like, “enough...”
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

Safety thought:

Problems are a certain size.

(Not all my thoughts are ready)
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

Safety thought:

... so that the present might work.

(Not all my thoughts are ready)
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
JennaM
Posts: 14
Joined: April 1st, 2021, 2:30 am
Gender: Female
Issues: Anxiety; ADHD; ACOA/codependency; workaholism
preferred pronoun: She/hers
Location: Beantown

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by JennaM »

Beany Boo wrote: June 17th, 2021, 2:48 pm So I have a theory.

When I go to be happy I reach for a full uninterrupted feeling. Unfortunately the only feeling in my repertoire that matches that description is humiliation. My brain receives my prompt, and returns “‘happiness’ does not exist, ‘humiliation’ is this what you’re looking for?”.

This is sort of simplified. My point is I may be constantly trying to access happiness and my brain is constantly trying to furnish me with it based on all previous experience.

Maybe I can start sending a new query, “please cue ‘happiness‘, does not contain ‘humiliation‘“.
Hopefully it doesn’t crash my brain, and just generates a paradoxical object; “‘happiness’, attributes uploading, please stand by”.
My father had this mean spirited habit of shaming me when I was visibly happy. If I had won something or achieved something or made a new friend or was having a wonderful laugh. So I have long been humiliated by happiness. When I experience it, a bout of self-hatred and guilt almost always follow. It's like this: an input leads to joy; joy feels luxuriously physically overwhelming; being overwhelmed is easily confused with not having control; lacking control associated with childhood abuse; children, being innocent, can only know abuse as an indication of inherent unworthiness, which is ipso facto humiliating; therefore one learns to pre-empt happiness with humiliation to achieve control, minimize shock, and get on with it.

Another possible experiment (more for me than you, I think, but related): "please fabricate happiness"?

Do not hurry; do not rest. -Goethe
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

Hi JennaM,

I like this word, fabrication.

For my happiness-fabrication, I would probably start here, with these component parts;

Arousal (in a general sense) that others can see.

Threat (that my arousal represented, that prompted my father's reactivity to humiliate) which lives in memory, but is now not automatically offered substance in the present.

Time for the arousal to bubble out and overtake the system, without interruption now.

Anticipation of what happens next; what is thought and felt once the arousal of happiness is reflected on the faces of others and they (weirdly) show acceptance and encouragement. They join in, in other words.

Shame, which goes through an overhaul, once it no longer applies in the same way to my body’s display of joy as it affects others’ bodies.

Voice, which becomes relaxed, careless, in both the vocal tone, emotional modulation and words used, since it’s no longer necessary to tightly suppress the ever-present ‘threat’ of happiness it contains.

Here is a start.
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
User avatar
Beany Boo
Posts: 2565
Joined: June 13th, 2016, 3:18 am
Gender: Not-quite-cis-male
Issues: Risk averse, conversation difficulty, relationship difficulty
preferred pronoun: He/him

Re: Safety Thoughts

Post by Beany Boo »

In order to preserve my own life, this is the last day I think about trying to be ‘likable.’

:)
Mr (blue) B. Boo

‘Out of nowhere the mind comes forth.’ - Zen koan

‘Let go or be dragged.’ - Zen proverb

‘Knowing how to yield is strength.’ - Laozi
Post Reply

Return to “Do other people feel like you do?”