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oak wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 1:47 pm I am overwhelmed with grief
Oak, has something happened? You seemed so composed lately.
Edit: I've read your other post. If I may ask, what has hit you suddenly? I imagine the loneliness you describe, or is it your work situation? There must be some tiny steps you can take to recover a bit of your optimism.
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Bummer. I imagine now also taking those "tiny steps" I recommended Oak. Today I called the therapist I had previously contacted via their website (without reply) and a young man answers, obviously not the older guy I had pictured:
"Huh?"
"Hello, it's about the psychologist, is he...?"
"He's not treating anyone anymore."
"Oh. Well, is there anyone els..."
[clic]
A new web search follows, but there is no male 50+ psychologist or psychiatrist within 50km. Well, there is one, but he specifically states that he "specializes in infants and teenagers".
So I start investigating different options online. After looking through the BetterHelp.com site for a while and reading opinions on them, I get cold feet. There seems to be a massive turnover of their therapists due to low pay, and the "chat anytime" thing does not seem to give you meaningful replies. The Mexican site https://www.terapify.com/ seems OK but I can't find any unbiased reviews. It's back to square one.
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troebia wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 7:49 pm
oak wrote: September 3rd, 2023, 1:47 pm I am overwhelmed with grief
Oak, has something happened? You seemed so composed lately.
Edit: I've read your other post. If I may ask, what has hit you suddenly? I imagine the loneliness you describe, or is it your work situation? There must be some tiny steps you can take to recover a bit of your optimism.
Troebia, hello and thanks for asking.

My grief comes from "trying to make it through the day, to the end of the week, to payday", only to find out at the end of the summer that I never really lived.

That is something worth grieving.

That is nuts about the difficulty of finding a counselor. Please keep us posted.

Also, a thought I had about your recent post about cravings: I recognize the following is terrible advice, but here goes:

In cases like these, I've found it best just to give in, that day, to the craving.

Some folks think, and they may well be right, that cravings represent a "hole in the soul". I'm not saying it is good or moral, long term, to give into cravings, but I've found that they are not worth fighting when they show up occasionally.

Said another way: when our souls are under-filled, the body can signal what it wants. Example: just now I was craving another baklava. My body wanted sweet, rich food. It wanted an experience. I could have fought it, and eventually given in, or just give my body what it wanted and move on.

Something to consider! 🙂
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oak wrote: September 4th, 2023, 6:00 am My grief comes from "trying to make it through the day, to the end of the week, to payday", only to find out at the end of the summer that I never really lived.
That sounds really depressing, Oak. I am myself in the process of managing/pruning expectations, BUT: We survived summer, we didn't starve to death, drown or lose any important limbs of our bodies. We should still fight on. You have as an independent free person the possibility of making positive life changes. I started recently to cut down on the food on my plate--a little more than half is enough (what a despicable first-world problem!). I don't expect to see any results in less than three months. Maybe you do something "slow" like that, too. Bit by bit.
oak wrote: September 4th, 2023, 6:00 am Example: just now I was craving another baklava. My body wanted sweet, rich food.
More than cravings, I think of it as a sort of dulling. I crave a shot of whisky but it's actually the haze I'm after. I was once on a medication that made me put on five kilos in a month, eating felt so good then and it made me doze off afterwards in endless siestas.
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Update from the therapy front:

I've discovered (duh!) that there are lots of online courses about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) on YouTube as well as whole video courses and books available through Torrent downloads. I found this channel (https://www.youtube.com/@TherapyinaNutshell) especially interesting and to the point. For the theory it doesn't matter to me if the person is female and much younger, but for person-to-person therapy I maintain my requirements: older dude. I simply need someone with a similar life perspective and who is connected to masculinity through their own body.

As I probably mentioned earlier, I'm sceptical about CBT as a catch-all for my particular issues (tinnitus etc.) but hell yeah, I'm going to plough through it and see!
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Troebia, I typed out a medium length response, but somehow my wifi went out before I could post. I assure you, it was the most amazing reply.

Kidding aside, I hope your counselor search goes well. Keep us posted.
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oak wrote: September 5th, 2023, 5:11 am I assure you, it was the most amazing reply.
Happens to all of us lol.

Here are reviews of some CBT material I've found online:

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy For Dummies (e-book)
I'm liking it since it has a humorous, very organised bullet-point style and also proposes exercises to do yourself.

Udemy CBT video courses
Basically a scam, since the videos are just audio and crappy text diagrams, or very low quality recordings of a talking head that's reading soullessly from a script.

Therapy in a Nutshell (Youtube channel)
Very extensive, relatively new video catalogue on different topics related to anxiety, trauma, PTSD:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiUrrIiqidTVOFopSNaKy6ieGbmuhkxQw&si=yWoHmToxy-rJ5frX
...and also more playlists. The videos are mostly short and to the point. There's barely anything that makes viewing necessary, so I simply listen to the videos while doing other stuff.
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Hello all,

I'm thinking of taking a small(?) break from the forum. It's been wonderful, soothing and stimulating to interact with you all. I will continue to read posts here although less frequently. In front of me is a long path to improvement and healing, and you have all in some way helped me to find the direction to go.

I will suffer all my life, as Buddha and all of us. We heal, we hurt. We progress, we regress, like lapping waves at the shore.

My paintings/drawings/doodles are taking new, for me uncharted directions and I have discovered artists' paths that will take lots of time and energy to digest. Thank you, Joaquín Sorolla, Egon Schiele, Goya, John Singer Sargent et al. Art is real work that takes grit, sweat and dogged persistence and it can suck the energy right out of you, but occasionally, just from time to time you get a flicker of something. Land on the horizon. Imagine being on the Santa María since August 3, more than seventy days out at sea, beginning to starve and doubting everything, and then (from the ship's log):
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 1492.
He sailed to the west-south-west and they went at the rate of 10 miles per hour and at times 12, and sometimes 7, and during the day and night they made 59 leagues. He told the people 44 leagues and no more. Here the people could no longer suffer the journey. They complained of the long voyage: but the Admiral encouraged them as well as he was able, giving them good hope of the benefits they would receive, and adding that for the rest it was useless to complain since he had come in search of the Indies, and thus he must pursue his journey until he found them, with the aid of our Lord.

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 11, 1492.
He sailed to the west-south-west. They had a much higher sea than they had had in all the voyage. They saw petrels and a green branch near the ship. Those on the caravel Pinta saw a reed and a stick and they took another small stick formed as it appeared with iron, and a piece of a reed and other grass which grows on land, and a small board. Those on the caravel Niña also saw other indications of land and a little branch full of dog-roses. With these signs every one breathed and rejoiced. They went 27 leagues during this day up to sunset.
After sunset he sailed on his first course to the west. They went 12 miles each hour and up to two hours after midnight they went about 90 miles which are 22 1/2 leagues. And because the caravel Pinta was the best sailor and was going ahead of the Admiral, land was discovered by her people and the signs which the Admiral had ordered were made.
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Troebia, thanks for sharing. There is a season for everything, including social media/forum. (I think, in the broadest societal terms, we don’t consider the parasocial consequences of extensive Internet use.)

Post as much or as little as like, and we’ll look forward to your return if/when you feel ready.

In the meantime, I hope your journey goes well! 🙂
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Best of luck to you Troebia, really going to miss your art, especially urban scenes, love the sketch + pen work + water color, what a vibrant and lively combination
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